So we've been trying out a number of setups in lava3... And I'd just like to report back on what works, and what clearly doesn't.. So I'll run through what we've discovered...
The best position we've found is 3 right hand side, and the other in the bottom right of the middle 4 spots.
The best setup we've found in terms of minimum required heroes: 1(+) arc (pixie can work at high level), 1(+) tree, 1 ice demon, 3(+) pd, 2(+) gh, 2(+) pk, 1 dd. The other heroes must then be high dps heroes - pk, sm, gr, bt, santa. There should really be at least 8 high dps heroes overall.
Now I'll just describe the purpose of each of the heroes included, since not all are immediately obvious:
Arctica/Pixie - to remove the shield of right hand boss when it activates
Tree - to provide initial protection, and revive downed heroes
Ice Demon - to perma slow last 3 demons, so they don't get a hit in toward the end.
PD - speed cap
GH - healing
PK - great dps, but also as a fast hero, these will always reach the 2nd and 3rd demons first, ensuring perma slow works.
DD - the middle spot has a dino which will 1-shot most heroes. A maxed DD will take a beating, and not get 1-shot, allowing the middle team to survive consistently.
SM - great dps
GR - great dps
BT - great dps, and for middle spot also provides more targets to be 1-shot, increasing overall team survivability.
Santa - great dps
Now, crests and artifacts - All crests should either be slow down (for the extra hit as well as adding to ID perma slow) or revive. Recommended is revive for the middle spots - even with DD tanking, this spot is HARD!
Artifacts should all be goblet/victors for extra survivability. Every person should also have 1 hero in Garuda, to prevent the right hand demon proccing as frequently.
DPS Comparison:
Based on 7sec period, heroes get in the following number of hits:
Hero Hits in 7s
BT 78.75
PK 70
SM 55
GR 55
Santa 55
Assumptions: 4 targets, demon shield down, no val/cupid
What we tried and doesn't work:
No arctica/pixie - timeout
2 right, 2 bottom - wipe
3 right, scatter team left - left side wipe
No ice demon - can work, can also fail horribly on 2nd and 3rd demons.
Not having a pk to go top and bottom after first demon dies - perma slow is useless, heroes start dying
Hope some people find this useful - if you have any other advice, please comment! I feel like we're just about there in terms of farming it now... But it's early days, and I welcome any other tips!
UPDATE:
This is the team I'm starting to use for mid spot:
I'll post some SS of team setups later...
Thanks! SS of setups would help for sure
- OlafBiggles Rated on
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Added mid spot SS - will add right hand spots later.
Oh and pls post setup screenshots. Espescially formation of the middle right spot would be interesting since some heroes always go towards middle boss at start
- OlafBiggles Rated on
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Added SS of mid spot - will take SS of right spots next time I run
Aries help's a lot. Especially if middle boss can go down under calamity which means more damage to other demons. High revite vlad can also help with crowd control. The more pk/gr/sm/hq there is the better.
- OlafBiggles Rated on
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How does Aries help? In terms of consistency, aries is unlikely to hit the right targets all the time... Could be useful in stopping demon proccing, but hard to get it to work consistently, and without that still need pixie/arc to remove the demon shield.
- the____chunk Rated on
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Aries can stop the demon proc all together. Have arctica as a backup.
- ZoroCZ Rated on
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If the centaur dies under calamity, his 8/8 revive doesn't work and thus you have 1 less targets. Good for PKs and SBs... Same with silence from garuda (still both is RNG though).
Man, thank you for your effort that you put in writing this. This is THE MOST USEFULL THREAD THAT IVE EVER READ ABOUT LAVA3
Please dont forget to screenshot the team formation
Good job
- OlafBiggles Rated on
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Good, glad it's helpful :)
- ZoroCZ Rated on
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Yeah, great thread. This one is good too (also OlafBiggles commented) http://cc.forum.igg.com/topic?ctid=249865
Great info as always Olaf. Thanks!
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Great job, thank you very much Olaf
Olaf, what do you use to counter the vlad and arctica on the right side? I've been pushing for one person to bring a 3-4 revite vlad to help wipe them, but you might have a better way.
- McDougMcDougles Rated on
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that's been our biggest problem is either the Arctica blasting down and giving the middle guy a long freeze without buffs, or the vlad wiping the PK and SM from all 3 teams
- OlafBiggles Rated on
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Tbh, I don't yet know - I've been taking mid spot every time so far. I will try to add more detail on right hand teams. I can hazard a guess at including a revit5 destroyer/vlad, but it's just a guess atm. I will continue to update this post with other useful information such as that as I find it out...
- McDougMcDougles Rated on
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haha thanks that would be great. Have you noticed anything funny from the middle spot? For example 2 times now I've had 3-5 heroes kill the dino, run to join everyone else on the right side demon, and all get killed at the same time along the way when they shouldn't be taking any aggro.