two extremely powerful warden released
Perhaps, but this is not the first time someone made a speculation like this, the same was said when the first dragon was release, but now many F2P have them all. They said the samething when Anubis, GunSlinger, Dove, Lava and others were released and while most of them still rank as top tier they changed up the game for a hot minute before the next game changing release. Let's see how this turns out.
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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I remember especially when GS was released. So many complaints, that she can't be defeated, def is too stro9ng, GW is broken, game is broken. And somehow game is still here, ppl learned how to defeat it. Now we can even defeat Zephy with proper heroes, so it is matter of time when we will learn to defeat new heroes.

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Well based on exact observation of new heroes at least 14 more of them will be added to the game in next updates(it's needed for destiny)But looking at both of their skill description especially the new dragon they rather game changing than game breaking(wich brings more creativity to the game) unless igg planned to release another dragon within 6 month
- FirstLady Rated on
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Dragons are a yearly event, between June & September so I doubt we will see another one before next year. They were the original event heroes.
- OverlordHM Rated on
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I know and i played this game for 5 years thats why i said unless.
- FirstLady Rated on
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Sorry hun, no offense intended :)
- iaknesnah Rated on
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You said silence can stop this new dragon? I thought he is immune to all condition. Isn't he?
- OverlordHM Rated on
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He gains it when his hp is below %50 just like rune master so you keep him perma silence it never kik in he do nothing and dies.the new hero is also a good help to shut him down too but he need to get close to him really close.also if you already faced him you would have realized he is no threat to heroes with defensive builds but he can easily kill a hero without defensive talents insignia and enchantment and then if you struggle with dmg use a good autoproc buffing hero like Michael to increase your heroes offense he is also a great tank.(just in case you didn't know dodge is no counter to him he can have nearly 45k acc just by 3 traits that belong to epic heroes)
Well the future of CC? even more p2p oriented of course
today for the first time in years i dont want to end my guild war runs. The reason? even my bt30 Dove Keeper gets one shotted like a green hero.
During the years i ve seen many heroes/new features. Surely every dragon has been kinda "unique" during its release time, but somehow they were manageable to fight against. Today what happened to me? i couldnt drop any of my heroes (even the tankiest ones) without seeing them disappear in 5 seconds.
Igg has once against played his dirtiest card. This new hero can one shot everything from the distance so you have only two options:
1) Being forced to buy at least minotaur and cross your fingers
2) spend the absurd amount of money required for your heroes to have full dodge and hope they will somehow survive
i m sure now i 'll read the usual comment "igg has done something similar and it will someday/somehow became counterable" but after passing in one day from "i can do gw" to "i cant even drop my heroes" (using the same strategy i ve always used) my answer is ...no!
1st time i ve seen Igg insult the players so much with only one update
end of the post. i hope no one will find the tone offensive
- OverlordHM Rated on
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I like the new dragon,tired to see everybody put high crit and dmg or truepiety on thier heroes also new dragon can be shut down by silence like rune master so use silence heroes and stop building mindless 40ml dmg or using true piety on your dove and rambard.the new dragon isn't unstoppable but rambard was,so im happy to see this new hero in game challenging people to have some creativity and don't rely on immortalness or native super survivability of thier heroes.
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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It is ready to get used to one strategy but when IGG is releasing hero which is destroying this strategy ppl are not happy. We need to find solution and counter it. What @OverlordHM wrote is one solution. But i bet not only one. Maybe it is time to change talents for different ones. We need to think about it, or wait till p2p will test what is working and share with us.
- Trent1234 Rated on
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I would argue that Dove Keeper and Rambard in their primes were far more game breaking than Dynamica. If anything, Dynamica is fixing the game breaking features of Dove Keeper and Rambard. There will be strategies to counter him. But the days of dropping a single Hero and letting it cheese a victory are over, and I'm not all that upset about it personally.
The beginning of the end for cc started with the double hero release, its waaaaay too much too fast even for ptp I stopped purchasing because now no matter what we cannot keep up, SLOW DOWN would be their best choice.
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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Question is why they did that. Is it that IGG want more money, or they need more money? There had to be reason for that, but we will not know for sure. I can agree that event heroes should not be released every month, cause f2p and low p2p will be quickly pushed back, and gap will become really big. Although for GW I'm still using same strategy as longer time ago and it is working. Not in all bases, but mostly working.
- Trent1234 Rated on
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It seems like the release of two Heroes per month coincided with Event Only Heroes being made more accessible to F2P players. It's give and take. Yes, there's an influx of Heroes that's extremely hard to keep up with, but IGG had to earn extra revenue if they were to make Event Only Heroes easier to get, and they had to make Event Only Heroes easier to get to keep the F2P part of the game alive. Not sure I like it, but that's how I see the situation.
The game has no strategy any more. It's just get the strongest hero and talent and you can defeat everything. It's just a constant cash grab with no gameplay improvements.
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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I could agree that some modes indeed don't need strategy like raiding, pve, but there are also modes where you must think, to assemble good teams for pvp modes like FF, Narcia, LBF. It all depends on resources. P2P can do what you write, but others need to manage with what they have. What kind of gameplay improvements we are taking about precisely? For example I hope with time epic heroes will be available to evo/devo not only with dupes or ss but also something else.
Many of the features that are now the norm in game were decried by players as "game-breaking" at the time.
BT, Destiny, Insignias, Empower, removal of Artifacts, Talents past Lv8, Superior Traits, Super Pets, and the list goes on.
As you can see, the game is still here. You have to give new updates time to breath before you start judging how they affect the state of the game.
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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Good points. I thought some time ago how f2p will be competing with p2p with all those lvl10 insignia, BT, skill 15, traits and event heroes. And now f2p like me do own Zephy with 30BT, talent and insignia lvl 10, almost full acc traits lvl 5. IGG someway is trying to maintain balance (more or less) by giving all those stuff for free it from events available to all. It is not easy to get it, but still possible, so I'm hoping those new epic heroes system will be more friendly as time passes.
- FirstLady Rated on
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@Trent1234, Well stated, since the start of the game almost every other update has introduced something that someone claimed to be game breaking,when in reality it just causes a shift in strategy and shortly thereafter a sure fire counter is released, which is also assumed to be another game breaker, and the cycle continues. At best they demand a new strategy.
- FirstLady Rated on
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@Cichociemiak, Nothing in the game holds it's value for long, and given enough time is accessible to everyone. Unfortunately not everyone realizes that this is a tactic used to prevent too much of an imbalance in game.......so kudos!
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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@FirstLady, I know that. That's what i was trying to say. As time come things are cheaper, and different better and more expensive are added and it is rising over and over again. But since a product must earn, it is nothing which bothers me.
- FirstLady Rated on
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I am not sure why since this is the way of the world, very few things retain value, except on a personal level,
Hello; As you know, you have put the epic hero that came with the latest update on the market from 209 TL. 31 pieces of epic heroes are required to ful this hero with everything, which costs about 5000 TL. I dont even calculate the side materials! After all, even if it is virtual, there is a product-manufacturer- customer-supply-demand relationship. I condemn this step taken to exploit people who spend years of labor-money- time in more monetary terms. We demand the return of the money we have spent. Even in the game information, even if you say that you spend equipment, not money to improve the heroes, developing the hero by spending money is proof that you are not honest. act against the sales contract Since you said and caused unfair competition, the money I spent on the game so far is TTK m. I request that it be returned as per 54/2. (Translated by Google) (Turkish Server / Android)
- Cichociemiak Rated on
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31 pieces?? To max Zephy i needed only one... I could be good with dupes only for evo/devo but this is way too much... I'm not sure if this was good idea...
- FirstLady Rated on
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I suggest you take your demand to IGG via their Live Support department, however I am pretty sure no refund will be given. Good Luck!
U questioning future Castle Clash while u angry when i reveal Narcia loop and ask IGG to fix that xxxxx? What do u want rafineo huh????
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- FirstLady Rated on
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You are responding to a thread that has had no activity for 3 months, when I see you posting most every day, while using language which is not allowed in forum.
- Captain_F2P Rated on
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Yea.. sorry i got carried away because this assasin dude got mad at me due to narcia loophole reveal. It turns out he's and the guild members is one of that cowards who did the narcia loophole. Once again sorry for my bad behaviour there's no justify for that i deeply apologize
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