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[Guides] Heavy Blow Chain-Stun Calculations

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Posted on 5/11/14 1:14:59 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

Edited by PierreT23 at 5-11-2014 01:16 PM

For those of you thinking about attempting to chain stun (or perma-stun) the Boss with a Heavy Blow team, the following chart may be useful:


  

Heroes with HB

  

Probability of stun/second*

1

10.00 %

2

19.00 %

3

27.10 %

4

34.39 %

5

40.95 %

6

46.86 %


Column 1: The number of heroes with HB
Column 2: The probability of any HB stun in a given second**

* Since the default attack rate is [1 sec/attk]; see notes for further explanation  

** To adjust for PD buff, simply multiply the above percent by (1.x), where x = PD's buff as a %
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- This means that with an attack rate of 1s/attack and two HB heroes, the boss is stunned ~ once every 5 seconds
- With 5 HB heroes, this rate goes up to twice every 5 seconds


Assumptions/notes:
- This chart assumes that all heroes have an attack rate of 1000 ms/attk
- If all heroes attack @ 1000 ms/sec, it should not matter if their hits are in sync (still once per second)
- Heroes with slower attack speeds (Cupid, AC, Paladin) will slightly lower the probabilities
- Heroes with faster attack speeds (GR, Ninja) will slightly raise the probabilities

- This does not consider the length of the stuns involved, just that any stun happens
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For those interested in the calculation:
1. Start with the probability of the union of (n) events with a fixed independent probability (here p = 0.1 for all events)
2. Simplify this down to a finite series:

p(stun)= Sum[ ((-1)^(k-1))*Combination(n,k)*(0.1^k); k from 1 to n]



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#2
Posted on 5/15/14 9:04:28 AM | Show thread starter's posts only

Glad I go over both forums, don't heavy blow myself but this helps my friends out.

Nice work on the chart/math

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#3
Posted on 5/15/14 3:11:05 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

dunno how u can do those mats... great work bro

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#4
Posted on 5/29/14 12:46:45 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

and this is why i should have paid attention  in math class.....or shoudl i say stats class

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#5
Posted on 5/29/14 10:31:51 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

Great info. Thanks.

Wanna test those skills. . . . . .
PD at 6/9 with no other buffs and Cupid also at 6/9 with no other buffs a HB4/5 on Tgod and a champion at 5/9 with no other buffs, ready, go!

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#6
Posted on 5/30/14 8:26:05 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

iggid90943705 replied at 5-29-2014 10:31 PM
Great info. Thanks.

Wanna test those skills. . . . . .

I get a great chain after a few attempts. Not to mention my Druid is 4/5 revite so I lead with him and he heals himself before the bosss can kill him.

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#7
Posted on 6/9/14 2:01:44 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

Edited by (143340362) at 6-9-2014 02:22 PM

if a boss is suppose to b stunned every 5 seconds then how come my team rarely if ever stuns the boss
my team is composed of

tg 3/9 1/5 self destruct
exe 2/9 4/5 heavy blow
engineer 2/9 3/5 heavy blow
dryad 2/9 3/5 revite
and druid for tank 2or3/9 1/5 revite

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#8
Posted on 6/9/14 5:14:06 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

(143340362) replied at 6-9-2014 02:01 PM
if a boss is suppose to b stunned every 5 seconds then how come my team rarely if ever stuns the bos ...

nope at most i can only last 10sec and can only do hit and runs

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#9
Posted on 6/13/14 6:59:32 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

(143340362) replied at 6-9-2014 05:14 PM
nope at most i can only last 10sec and can only do hit and runs

you need to drop druid far away, once he takes aggro drop exe. if he connects with HB drop the rest of the team. if not leave.  

regardless with no cupid or PD i don't think you will be able to chain stun without lots of luck as none of your heroes can get you a 3 sec stun.

good luck

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#10
Posted on 10/2/14 1:55:14 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

now it is more explained how chain stun calculations work

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