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[Guides] PD Stacks and Attack Rate Cap

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#11
Posted on 6/25/14 9:41:39 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

sorry forceclosed but your posts are too long, gonna need some cliffs

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#12
Posted on 6/25/14 10:02:45 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

Edited by guoyuus at 6-25-2014 10:22 PM

ForceClosed replied at 6-25-2014 09:31 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Thanks for the link. I've counted 89 procs in the 2 minutes, but either way that's not conclusive  ...

yes, that makes sense.

the cap seems to be 200 ms with zerk pd as well. since both pd and cupid are 8/9, I don't think one can decrease atk interval lower than that.

Good to know, now I can changed the simulator a little bit with that info, lol.

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#13
Posted on 6/26/14 6:39:26 AM | Show thread starter's posts only

You put way too much thought into an app

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#14
Posted on 6/26/14 6:41:33 AM | Show thread starter's posts only

Did you study Math?

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#15
Posted on 6/26/14 6:53:47 AM | Show thread starter's posts only

Edited by Gh0stspeed at 6-26-2014 06:54 AM

Now i know that snowzilla has a Cooldown ! LOL , itsn't a real CD he only waits for the skill to end and start it again. WOW

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#16
Posted on 6/26/14 7:05:13 AM | Show thread starter's posts only

guoyuus replied at 6-25-2014 10:02 PM
yes, that makes sense.

the cap seems to be 200 ms with zerk pd as well. since both pd and cupid ar ...

does this mean with 8/9 - 9/9 PD, you wont need berzerk anymore on PD to achieve permastun for t3? only champ needs zerk? thank you.

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#17
Posted on 7/17/14 9:44:24 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

Edited by KingNomad at 7-17-2014 09:52 PM

How many stacks does a 7/9 PD achieve without berserk?

I figured that I need 6 stacks at 7/9 in order to get a permastun.

3000 ms / 7 attacks = 429 ms ATK SPD needed

1000 ms base ATK SPD / 234% increase in attack speed = 429 ms

234% / 40% per stack = 5.84 stacks needed to achieve 429 ms ATK SPD

So by that math, I would need to achieve 6 concurrent stacks on my PD to achieve permastun. Is that possible with a 7/9 PD without berserk?

Considering I haven't been able to achieve a permastun with that setup, I can assume that a 7/9 PD achieves no more than 5 stacks. So I would need a Berserk 2 on my champ to get a permastun.

tl:dr
I think, in order to get stunlock without Cupid, you need one of the following combinations

PD 7/9 & Champ Zerk2
PD 8/9 & Champ Zerk1
PD 9/9 & Champ Zerk0

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#18
Posted on 7/18/14 2:03:24 AM | Show thread starter's posts only

What about a pd 6/9 and zerk 4/5?

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#19
Posted on 7/18/14 3:56:36 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

Edited by KingNomad at 7-18-2014 03:58 PM

As long as the PD can achieve 5 stacks, a 6/9 PD and a Champ with 4/5 zerk should achieve permastun.

750 ms base ATK SPD (Zerk4) / 175% increase in attack speed = 429 ms

175% / 35% per stack = 5 stacks needed to achieve 429 ms ATK SPD

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Posted on 7/25/14 5:52:46 PM | Show thread starter's posts only

I have a pd with 6/9 and 4/5 revitalize and a champ with 5/5 berserk and a cupid with 4/9 5/5 hb and still not able to stunlock.  Hopefully 7/9 on pd will do it

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